May 13, 2024

Years ago, Aza Raskin invented the infinite scroll — and yes, he regrets it. Today, Aza is the cofounder of the Center For Humane Technology and the cofounder and president of Earth Species Project. He focuses on creating and advocating for ethical technology that benefits collective well-being. For his latest project, he's looking beyond humanity, using artificial intelligence to decode non-human communication and see what lessons we might learn from the animal world. In this expansive conversation, Adam asks Aza about the exciting and terrifying possibilities of AI, how communicating with other species could change our world, and why everyone — including our governments — needs to upgrade how we think about modern technology. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at

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